Podcast: Do ideas or interests drive our politics?

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Senator Mike Lee, R-Utah, joins Julia Azari, Lee Drutman, and James Wallner to discuss the role that ideas and interests play in our politics. Do ideas have consequences? Or do our interests determine our ideas? Should our politics be more principled? Or do we need more parochial horse-trading to get things done? These are some of the questions they ask in this week’s episode.

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